CAPTIONING MAY 18, 2009 ZONING HEARING MASTER ***This is not an official, verbatim transcript of the ***following meeting. It should be used for informational ***purposes only. This document has not been edited; ***therefore, there may be additions, deletions, or words ***that did not translate. [Note from Terri Bakas: I only copied that portion of this hearing that dealt with the Boys and Girls Club rezoning application] >>STEVE LUCE: WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES THIS ITEM. MR. GRADY, ARE YOU READY FOR THE LAST ITEM? >>BRIAN GRADY: MR. LUCE, WE NEED A QUICK BREAK FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE. FIVE MINUTES. >> NO. >>STEVE LUCE: WE'LL RECONVENE IN FIVE MINUTES. [RECESS TAKEN] >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. MR. GRADY, I BELIEVE WE'RE BACK, AND WE CAN INTRODUCE THE NEXT ITEM. >>BRIAN GRADY: THE FINAL ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS AGENDA ITEM 11. IT'S REZONING APPLICATION 09-0431. THE APPLICANT'S BRADLEY L. BAUMGARDNER. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM AGRICULTURAL SINGLE-FAMILY CONVENTIONAL-1 TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. TYLON McGEE WITH COUNTY STAFF WILL PROVIDE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AFTER PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. THE APPLICANT, PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. LUCE AND STAFF. I'M JOHN LaROCCA WITH MURPHY LaROCCA CONSULTING GROUP, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE. MY ADDRESS IS 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND I HAVE BEEN SWORN. I'M REPRESENTING THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS OF TAMPA BAY, THE APPLICANT, WHO PROPOSES TO CONSTRUCT A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE DIOCESE OF ST. PETERSBURG. THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE ADJACENT TO AND SHARE CROSS-ACCESS AND PARKING WITH RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH AND DAY CARE CENTER. THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB INTENDS TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD RECREATIONAL SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY IN A BUILDING NOT TO EXCEED 17,000 SQUARE FEET WITH A FLOOR AREA RATIO NOT EXCEEDING .15. THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS OF TAMPA BAY HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF SUPPORT TO THE COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING RESIDENTIAL AND RECREATIONAL SUPPORT, NOT ONLY TO TAMPA'S HISTORICAL NEIGHBORHOODS BUT ALSO TO THE NEEDS OF GROWING COMMUNITIES BEYOND. RECENTLY MANY SUCCESSFUL ARRANGEMENTS HAVE BEEN FORGED TO SERVE COMMUNITIES THROUGH SITES THAT ARE PART OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND CHURCH PROPERTIES. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PURPOSE AND THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST AND THEN REFER TO A COUPLE OF COMP PLAN AND PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT POLICIES AND FINDINGS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN A STAFF REPORT FOR THE RECORD THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU FOR REVIEW THAT'S IN CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING AND THROUGH YOUR DELIBERATIONS. THE SUBJECT OF THE REZONING APPLICATION IS A 2.52-ACRE SITE LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF A PORTION OF A LARGER 20-ACRE PARCEL COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE RESURRECTION CHURCH PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF KRYCUL AVENUE, A COLLECTOR ROAD, ABOUT A QUARTER OF A MILE SOUTH OF U.S. HIGHWAY 301 AND NORTH OF LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD IN UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. BOYS AND -- THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FACILITY PROPOSED IN THIS EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY WITHIN AN AREA THAT IS A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES AT VARIOUS DENSITIES, RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES AS YOU TRANSITION NORTH TOWARD U.S. 301. THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED SMU-6, SUBURBAN LAND USE, ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED INTENSITY IN THE SMU-6 PLAN CATEGORY IS A FLOOR AREA RATIO IN OUR CASE OF .25 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD- SCALE NONRESIDENTIAL USES. THERE'S SOME OTHER INTENSITIES THAT ARE PERMITTED, BUT IN OUR CASE FOR PURPOSES OF OUR REQUEST WE'LL ILLUSTRATE AND INDICATE THAT WE'RE LESS THAN WHAT IS PERMITTED IN THE SMU- 6 CATEGORY. THE PURPOSE OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION, OF COURSE, IS TO PROVIDE A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY. WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS GENERALLY PROVIDE SOME COMMENTARY ON THE COMP PLAN AND FINDINGS OF PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT REGARDING THIS USE AT THIS LOCATION. OF COURSE, THE PURPOSE OF MY PRESENTATION THIS EVENING IS TO TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY AND COMPATIBILITY OF A USE WITHIN A COMMUNITY AND CONSISTENCY WITH THE ADOPTED POLICIES AND PLANS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMMUNITY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THEM ALL BECAUSE MANY OF THESE ARE EITHER IN MY APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THIS REQUEST OR INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR FILE, BUT THERE ARE VARIOUS GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN THAT, ONE, APPLIES TO DECISION- MAKING WHEN GRANTING AN INTENSIFICATION OF USE. ONE OF THEM IS OBJECTIVE 17 OF THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT DEALS WITH NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY-SERVING USES. CERTAIN NONRESIDENTIAL LAND USES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES SHALL BE ALLOWED WITHIN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO DIRECTLY SERVE THE POPULATION. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POLICY OF THE COMP PLAN OR OBJECTIVE OF THE PLAN. POLICY 17.1 ADDRESSES RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES, AND THEY SHALL BE OF A DESIGN, INTENSITY, AND SCALE TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK YOU'LL INDICATE BY REVIEWING THE RECORD THAT -- AND THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT THIS IS CERTAINLY A DESIGN OF SIMILAR SCALE, CHARACTERISTIC, INTENSITY WITH WHAT IS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. OBJECTIVE 34 TALKS ABOUT PERMITTING URBAN-LEVEL INTENSITIES THAT WILL ENCOURAGE MIXED-USE INTENSITIES OF DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE INTERSTATE 75 CORRIDOR, OF WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS NOT FAR REMOVED FROM. OBJECTIVE 1-2, SHOULD PROMOTE A VARIETY OF USES TO CREATE VITALITY AND BRING MANY ACTIVITIES OF DAILY LIFE WITHIN -- OR THE POTENTIAL FOR WALKING DISTANCES WITHIN HOMES. POLICY 1-2.6, PROVIDE A WIDER RANGE OF USES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER AND WITHIN NEW AND EXISTING URBAN COMMUNITIES. THEY'LL INCLUDE, AMONG OTHER USES, CIVIC USES. FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY 1.4 TALKS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY OF USES AS BEING DEFINED AS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF DIFFERENT USES OR ACTIVITIES OR DESIGN WHICH ALLOW THEM TO BE LOCATED NEAR OR ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER IN HARMONY. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DEALING WHAT 20-ACRE SITE WITH A CHURCH THAT SERVES NOT ONLY THE SPIRITUAL NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF LAND OWNED BY THE DIOCESE OF ST. PETERSBURG ALONG WITH THE CHURCH'S INTEREST AND THAT OF THE DIOCESE TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT COMPATIBILITY OR YOU'LL SEE COMPATIBILITY AS IT'S WRITTEN THROUGH THE REPORT. POLICY 16.3 TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT SHALL BE INTEGRATED WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES THROUGH CREATION OF LIKE USES OR CREATION OF COMPLEMENTARY USES OR THE MITIGATION OF ADVERSE IMPACTS AND WITH NOTE TOWARD TRANSPORTATION, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL OF THAT IS EITHER PRESENTED AS PART OF ITS LOCATION OR AS CONDITIONS THAT WILL BE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY 35.2 REQUIRES THE ADDRESSING AND AMENITIES OF BUFFERING, LANDSCAPING, BIKEWAYS, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE AGREEING TO MANY OF THOSE CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE SMU-6 CATEGORY AND A PD DESIGNATION. ENCOURAGE HIGH-QUALITY -- POLICY 35.4, ENCOURAGE HIGH- QUALITY SITE DESIGNS THROUGH INCENTIVES OR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PERIMETER LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, AND ON-SITE LIGHTING. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AS PART OF OUR PD PLAN AND BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY. POLICY 15-1.3 TALKS ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND CONNECTIONS. WE'RE PROVIDING YOU SIDEWALKS -- OR SIDEWALKS THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AVAILABLE. POLICY 17-2.3, PROVIDE SIDEWALKS ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE GOING TO RETAIN AS MANY OF THE TREES -- IT'S A HEAVILY WOODED SITE IN ITS CURRENT FORM, AND WE INTEND TO DESIGN WITHIN THAT AND MINIMIZE THE LOSS OF TREES. AND CONNECTING THE AREAS INTERNALLY TO MINIMIZE EASE OF TRANSPORT AND PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME CROSS-ACCESS EASEMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND USES ARE COMPATIBLE. REFERRING QUICKLY TO SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR REPORT IS THAT THERE ARE NO WAIVERS REQUESTED. WE DIDN'T ATTEMPT TO USE THE PD TO WAIVE STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENT, SO THERE'S NO WAIVERS REQUESTED. AND WE CONCUR WITH ALL OF THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THERE ARE SOME OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING POLICIES FOR COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY WITHIN MY APPLICATION SUBMITTED. YOU CAN READ THOSE AS PART OF THE RECORD THAT IS ON FILE. AS NOTED BY THE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IN THEIR SUMMARY REPORTS AND COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO YOU IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING AS INDICATED, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF SMU-6. THE APPLICANT CONCURS WITH ALL OF THE COMMENTARY AND FINDINGS PRESENTED IN THE REPORTS. FURTHERMORE, THE APPLICANT HAS REVIEWED THE RECOMMENDED ZONING CONDITIONS AND DEEMS THEM APPROPRIATE FOR THE CIRCUMSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PD ZONING PROPOSAL. UPON REVIEW OF THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PETITION, WE TRUST THAT YOU TOO WILL FIND THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THE SMU-6 DESIGNATION AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST SUPPORT OF THIS PROPOSAL. I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT INTO THE RECORD TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR -- TO THE PETITION FOR THE REZONING, ONE FROM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY AND ONE WHO IS A RESIDENT OF THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY WHO COULD NOT BE HERE THIS EVENING. AND I HAVE TWO COPIES, I BELIEVE ONE FOR YOU AND ONE FOR THE RECORDING SECRETARY, IF I MAY. THOSE LETTERS, BY THE WAY, ARE SUBMITTED BY DEBORAH CARRENO, WHO IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AT 6812 KRYCUL AVENUE, AND TERRY BACKUS, WHO LIVES AT 7218 COLONIAL LAKE DRIVE. TO CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS, WITH ME THIS EVENING IS BRAD BAUMGARDNER, THE APPLICANT, REPRESENTING THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. HE'S THEIR PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER. I'D LIKE HIM TO SPEAK BRIEFLY AS TO HOW THE PROPOSED CLUB WILL BE OPERATED AT THIS LOCATION. ALSO, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, RICK KOLHOFF REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF THE DIOCESE OF ST. PETERSBURG IS HERE WITH REGARD TO THE COMMITMENT BEING MADE BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IN TERMS OF ALLOWING THE LONG-TERM USE OF THIS PROPERTY. ALSO HERE THIS EVENING IS REED THURSBY, THE CIVIL ENGINEER SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY CIVIL SITE QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE SITE. OBVIOUSLY WE CAN ANSWER THEM NOW OR SAVE THEM FOR REBUTTAL SHOULD WE HAVE TO REBUT ANY POINTS, AND THERE WILL BE OTHERS THIS EVENING AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PETITION. WITH THAT, I'D LIKE BRAD TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND DESCRIBE HOW THE CLUB IS INTENDED TO BE UTILIZED AT THIS LOCATION, HOW SOME OF THE OTHER CLUBS HAVE BEEN OPERATED IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS. >>STEVE LUCE: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. IT'S BRAD BAUMGARDNER, 1307 NORTH MacDILL, TAMPA 33607. KEEP IN MIND, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS OF TAMPA BAY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1926, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES TO KIDS ALL OVER HILLSBOROUGH AND PASCO COUNTY. THE NEW LOCATION IN RIVERVIEW THAT WE'RE HOPING TO BUILD A FACILITY OF 15- TO 17,000 SQUARE FEET WHERE ABOUT 150 TO 175 YOUNG PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF FIVE AND 17 -- WHICH IF IT KEEPS PACE WITH THE OTHER CLUBS, MOST OF THE KIDS WILL BE BETWEEN THE AGES OF FIVE AND 13, BUT IT'LL BE AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM THAT WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TUTORING, EDUCATIONAL ENHANCEMENT ACTIVITIES. WE'LL HAVE A COMPUTER LAB WHERE KIDS WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN COMPUTER AND LEARN BASIC SKILLS ON IT AS WELL AS SOME LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES, AND RECREATION WOULD BE A PART OF IT ALSO, BUT OUR INTENT IS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO HAVE KIDS COME TO THE CLUB AFTER SCHOOL THAT WOULDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER PLACE TO GO. ALSO, IN THE SUMMERTIME WE'LL BE OPEN FROM 7:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL ABOUT 6:00 IN THE EVENING FOR THOSE KIDS WHO -- WHO DON'T HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO DURING THE SUMMERTIME, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THIS FACILITY WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 4- TO 500 KIDS WHO ARE ACTUALLY MEMBERS, BUT IN ANY GIVEN DAY THERE WILL BE ABOUT 150 TO 175 KIDS. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. IN TERMS OF THE DAILY OPERATION, ACTIVITIES, RECREATION, AND IS THERE A BASKETBALL COURT? WHAT KIND OF -- >> YEAH. IT WILL HAVE A -- WELL, IT WILL HAVE A GYMNASIUM. >>STEVE LUCE: WHAT'S IN THE 17,000 SQUARE FEET? >> YEAH. IT WILL HAVE A GYMNASIUM ABOUT 6- TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET. THEN YOU'LL HAVE A COMPUTER ROOM WITH ANYWHERE FROM 15 TO 20 COMPUTERS. YOU'LL ALSO HAVE A LIBRARY EDUCATION LEARNING CENTER, AND YOU'LL HAVE A GAME ROOM FOR KIDS JUST TO COME TO THE CLUB AND HAVE FUN, AND YOU'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL LEADERSHIP ROOMS, TRAINING WILL BE GOING ON, EVEN AS MUCH AS BASIC FIRST AID AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW. >>STEVE LUCE: AND IT'S AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM? [INDISCERNIBLE CROSS TALK] >> YEAH, IT'S AFTER SCHOOL, DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR, LIKE AT 2:30, CLOSES AT 8:00, AND THEN IN THE SUMMERTIME WE'LL BE OPEN DURING THE DAY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL WON'T BE IN PROCESS. >>STEVE LUCE: IN THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOLS WHERE YOU HAVE SHUTTLE BUSES OR -- >> YEAH. WE'LL BE BUSING, AND SOME KIDS WILL BE DROPPED OFF BY PROBABLY PARENTS, BUT WE'LL BE BUSING AND VANING KIDS IN AND OUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE DAY. >>STEVE LUCE: AND DURING THE SUMMER HOW DO KIDS GET THERE, JUST BY PARENTS? >> MOST -- RIGHT. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. OKAY. I THINK I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> MR. LUCE, THAT CONCLUDES THE APPLICANT'S PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. >>STEVE LUCE: MR. LaROCCA, LET ME JUST ASK YOU, THE 2.52- ACRE IS CARVED OUT OF THE CHURCH'S EXISTING PROPERTY? >> 20 ACRES. APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES. >>STEVE LUCE: AND LOOKING AT AN AERIAL, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN AREA WHERE THERE'S PARKING PROVIDED FOR THE CHURCH RIGHT NOW? >> THERE IS CURRENTLY PARKING -- THE NEW CLUB -- THE CLUB IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 16,000 AND 17,000 SQUARE FEET. THE CODE REQUIRES 3.3 PARKING SPACES PER THOUSAND OR APPROXIMATELY 56 OR 57 SPACES. WE'RE PROVIDING 61 WITHIN THE DEFINED AREA OF THIS REZONING. THE CHURCH SEATS -- IS DESIGNED TO SEAT APPROXIMATELY 275 TO 300 PARISHIONERS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S IN EXCESS OF 100 OR MORE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE PAVED AND UNPAVED, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL LOT. YOU'LL SEE -- AND I THINK THE STAFF CAN ADDRESS THAT -- IS THAT HOW THE TWO SITES FUNCTION IN TERMS OF CROSS-ACCESS AND HOW THE SITE IS REVIEWED AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, ALL OF THAT PARKING WILL BE ALLOCATED ACCORDINGLY, BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH USES AT DIFFERENT TIMES. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. AND IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOUR OWN STORMWATER POND ON THE -- >> THAT'S CORRECT, ON THE WEST. AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY -- AND BRADLEY MAY CORRECT ME ON THIS -- THAT MOST OF THE ACTIVITIES IN EARLIER QUESTIONS THAT YOU RAISED WILL BE INTERNAL TO THE BUILDING. I DON'T THINK -- IF THERE'S ANY EXTERIOR INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE MINOR AT BEST, BUT THE INTENT IS THAT ALL ACTIVITIES WOULD OCCUR WITHIN THIS BUILDING. >>STEVE LUCE: PROBABLY A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR THE OPERATOR, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT SCHOOLS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH? >> I DON'T KNOW. MR. BAUMGARDNER MAY HAVE TO ANSWER? >>STEVE LUCE: MR. BAUMGARDNER. >> YEAH, PARTICULARLY WITH RIVERVIEW ELEMENTARY WILL BE THE MAIN SCHOOL WITH THE AGE GROUP THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS NEARBY WILL ALSO -- WILL BE FOR THE TEENAGERS, BUT IT'S TYPICAL BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WITH THE REST OF OUR FACILITIES, 75% OF OUR KIDS ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 13. NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SERVE MORE TEENS, BUT THAT JUST SEEMS TO BE THE AGE GROUP THAT TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAMS OR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. STAFF. >>TYLON McGEE: TYLON McGEE, PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED BY A CHURCH AND A DAY CARE USE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A 17,000-SQUARE-FOOT NEIGHBORHOOD RECREATION SERVICE USE FOR A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. NO REVIEWING AGENCIES OBJECTED, AND TRANSPORTATION INDICATED THAT THE IMPACTED PORTIONS OF KRYCUL ROAD WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE AT ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE. THE SURROUNDING AREA CONSISTS PREDOMINANTLY OF RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES. STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA AND WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, THEREFORE, STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST APPROVABLE. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. JUST, IF YOU COULD, YOU'VE GOT THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES IN THE AREA. >>TYLON McGEE: YES. THERE'S A CHURCH FURTHER NORTH OF THE SITE. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. WHAT'S THE -- ON LAKE CHARLES -- LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD FURTHER TO THE EAST AS YOU GET CLOSER TO, I GUESS, 301, IS THAT A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER? >> YES. >>TYLON McGEE: SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY. WHICH ONE? >>STEVE LUCE: ON LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD AS YOU HEAD TO THE EAST TOWARDS 301 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD, IS THAT A SHOPPING CENTER? >> YES. [INAUDIBLE] >> IT'S A SCHOOL, SIR. IT'S A SCHOOL. >> IT'S A SCHOOL. >>STEVE LUCE: LET ME -- IF YOU COULD, MR. LaROCCA, COULD YOU JUST COME TO THE MICROPHONE FOR A MOMENT. >> MAY I GO TO THE ELMO AND MAKE SURE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME PROPERTY? >>STEVE LUCE: SURE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>STEVE LUCE: YES. >> ARE WE LOOKING -- ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE AERIAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE STAFF IN THE SUMMARY REPORT? >>STEVE LUCE: CORRECT. >> AND IF YOU'RE SPEAKING SOUTH -- IF YOU TRAVEL SOUTH ON KRYCUL TO LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD AND WHERE THE ROAD BENDS TO THE SOUTHEAST -- >>STEVE LUCE: CORRECT, THOSE USES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USE IN THE NATURE OF A -- I THINK IT'S CALLED KIDDIE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, EITHER SCHOOL OR DAY CARE. >> CHARTER SCHOOL. >> OR CHARTER SCHOOL. THERE IS SCHOOL ACTIVITY, AND THERE IS SOME OTHER ACTIVITIES TO THE EAST OF THAT THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT IN NATURE. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. STAFF, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF. >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, MR. HEARING OFFICER. FOR THE RECORD, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT. IT WAS LEFT OUT OF THE PACKET THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU. THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SUBURBAN MIXED USE-6 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY. IT FALLS WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA AND IS ALSO WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE RIVERVIEW COMMUNITY PLAN. AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE LOCATION OF RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES SUCH AS RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL POPULATIONS THEY ARE INTENDED TO SERVE. THIS SITE IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FACILITY, AS IT IS LOCATED NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OF LAKE ST. CHARLES. THE SITE HAS A FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY OF SUBURBAN MIXED USE-6 AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE I-75 MIXED-USE CORRIDOR. IN THIS CATEGORY AND AREA A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE PROVIDING A CIVIC OR RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USE IN AN AREA WHERE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES ARE ALREADY PRESENT. THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE A COMPLEMENTARY ADDITION TO THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED RECREATIONAL FACILITY IS PLANNED TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 17,000 SQUARE FEET. THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS .13, WHICH IS WELL BELOW THE MAXIMUMS PERMITTED UNDER THE SMU-6 CATEGORY, AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD BE COMPARABLE SCALE AND MASSING TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS FOUND WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, ESPECIALLY THE CHURCH. THE PROPOSED RECREATIONAL FACILITY WILL BE UTILIZED BY CHILDREN AND RESIDENTS FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA. AS SUCH, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE FACILITIES TO FACILITATE PEOPLE FROM THE SURROUNDING AREA COMING TO THE SITE. IN ADDITION, THE INCLUSION OF PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES AND CONNECTIONS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA WILL HELP INTEGRATE THE SITE WITH A MIX OF USES IN THE AREA, AND THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN DOES SHOW SIDEWALKS ALONG KRYCUL AVENUE CONNECTING THIS SITE TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS ARE ALSO SHOWN THROUGHOUT THE PARKING AREA. ONE NOTE SHOULD BE THAT VEHICULAR CROSS-ACCESS IS PROVIDED TO THE ADJACENT CHURCH SITE, BUT STAFF DID NOTICE THAT NO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS ARE PROVIDED TO THAT CHURCH SITE IN THE DIRECTION TO THE WEST. ALL THE PEDESTRIANS ARE GEARED -- PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THE SIDEWALK BE EXTENDED AT LEAST DOWN TO THE PROPERTY LINE TO FACILITATE PEOPLE GOING BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND THE BOYS CLUB. AND BASED UPON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE OF HILLSBOROUGH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED BY THE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, SIR. DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> HI. TOM GAITENS, 7709 BRISTOL PARK DRIVE, APOLLO BEACH 335 -- I'M SORRY, 33752. ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND ABOUT RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH IS OUR MONSIGNOR WAS ACTUALLY THE FOUNDING PASTOR OF THIS SITE. IT'S 25 YEARS OLD AND THE CHURCH IS 20 YEARS OLD. PART OF THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THIS CHURCH WAS ALSO TO BUILD A SCHOOL UPON THIS PROPERTY. FATHER'S VISION IN THIS COMMUNITY HAD BEEN TO BE A UNITER IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND IN SUCH, HE WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE RIVERVIEW CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. IMPORTANT IN HIS AGENDA ITEMS THERE WAS TO TRY TO FOSTER A BROADER SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN THE RIVERVIEW AREA. AS A RESULT OF THAT, WHEN FATHER WAS APPROACHED WITH THIS - - WITH THIS MIRACULOUS MOMENT OF A GENEROUS GIFT TO ENDOW THIS PROJECT, FATHER SAID, OKAY, THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN A SCHOOL. THERE'S PLENTY OF SCHOOLS, AS WAS JUST NOTED. ADJACENT IS A CHARTER SCHOOL. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE FATHER'S VISION OF THIS IS WE SAW THAT WE COULD HELP THIS BROADER COMMUNITY, BRINGING THE CHILDREN TO A SAFE LOCATION, NOT TO 301, WHICH PUTS THEM AT GREATER RISK, KEEPS THEM WITHIN THIS CONFINES, PROTECTS THE COMMUNITY, TAKES KIDS OUT OF DANGEROUS SITUATIONS, RISKY SITUATIONS, PROVIDING A ULTIMATE BENEFIT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAT IT WILL BE SERVING BY MAKING THE MISCHIEF, THE UNWANTED PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES THAT CHILDREN MAY BE ACTIVE IN, REMOVING THEM FROM THAT ELEMENT AND PUTTING THEM IN A POSITIVE ENVIRONMENT, BRINGING TO THE ESSENTIAL NEED THAT'S DERIVED AS THE CATHOLIC PURPOSE OF THIS CHURCH. I WOULD ALSO POINT THAT WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN THESE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSING WITH THE COMMUNITY -- WE BROUGHT THEM IN ON THE DISCUSSION PROCESS ASKING WHAT ISSUES MAY BE CONCERN TO THEM, SOME OF WHICH WAS TRAFFIC, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY WAS AESTHETICS IT SEEMED AT THE TIME, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THE POSITION OF THE PROPERTY IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER AS OPPOSED TO THE ORIGINAL ACCESS POINTS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ON LAKE ST. CHARLES, SO WE'VE AVOIDED THOSE ISSUES IMMEDIATELY BY LOCATING IT WHERE IT IS. MOST IMPORTANTLY -- AND THEN THIS IS THE DRIVING VISION OF THIS -- IS THAT THE IDEA IS THAT THIS IS A SERVICE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY PROJECT THAT CAN REALLY BENEFIT THIS COMMUNITY, AND THE CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED BY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS PROPERTY NEED TO BE KEPT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE BENEFITING PARTICIPANTS ARE THOSE VERY ONES THAT MAY BE CONCERNED WITH THE COSTS AND CONSEQUENCES. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, SIR. >> SIGN IN, PLEASE. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> CRAIG FIRPAULT, 10501 BRIDGEWOOD DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE CHURCH -- WE'VE BEEN VERY WELL GOTTEN ALONG WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. THE CHILDREN FROM LAKE ST. CHARLES PLAY BALL ON OUR GROUNDS, USE OUR BASKETBALL HOOP. WE EVEN ALLOW LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR WALL AND SIGN ON OUR PROPERTY ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF KRYCUL AND LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD. AND I BELIEVE THAT FURTHER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND INTERACTION WITH THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE WELL TO BUILD SUPPORT AMONGST THE PEOPLE OF RIVERVIEW. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING. >> HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS AL LARSON. I LIVE IN LAKE ST. CHARLES, 7016 JAMESTOWN MANOR DRIVE. MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE 1997. I HAVE THREE BOYS. I HAVE AN 11-YEAR-OLD, I HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD, AND A THREE- YEAR-OLD. I'M A BIG PROPONENT FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO BE BUILT ON LAKE ST. -- IN RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH GROUNDS. FOR ONE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A PLACE WHERE I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MY KIDS GO IN THE SUMMERTIME FOR ANY TYPE OF AFTERSCHOOL OR EVEN SUMMER CAMP ACTION THAT WILL BE GOING ON. WE ALL KNOW THE REPUTATION OF WHAT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB HAS DONE SINCE 1920, SINCE IT'S BEEN OPEN. WE'VE SEEN IT TURN AROUND A LOT OF LIVES, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, SINCE 1997 AND JUST SEEING SOME OF THE KIDS IN LAKE ST. CHARLES AND SOME OF THEM WALKING THE STREETS AND TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO, THIS IS GOING TO GIVE THEM A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S SAFE AND WHERE THEY CAN GROW AND REALLY KIND OF TURN THEIR LIVES AROUND, AND -- OR MAYBE EVEN GROW AS A PERSON. WHERE -- I'M ALSO A PARISHIONER AT RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND I'VE BEEN A PARISHIONER SINCE 1997, AND AS TOM ALLUDED TO WITH MONSIGNOR DIAZ, I'VE WITNESSED PRETTY MUCH LIVES CHANGE BECAUSE OF HIS PASTORAL CARE AND WHAT HE'S DONE TO PEOPLE, REAL CHANGES AND HOW PEOPLE HAVE GONE FROM REALLY BAD SITUATIONS TO REALLY HOLY SITUATIONS, AND I THINK WHEN YOU MARRY RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THESE PARISHIONERS, THIS FAMILY OF PARISHIONERS, AND A GREAT INSTITUTION AS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND YOU MARRY THEM TWO TOGETHER, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING SPECIAL, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, AS -- I LIVE IN A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY IN LAKE ST. CHARLES. THE PEOPLE THERE ARE WONDERFUL AND THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IN REALLY BUILDING UP THAT COMMUNITY. I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU THAT I'VE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEM GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE, AND MY WIFE AND I PROBABLY DRIVE IN AND OUT OF THERE MORE THAN ANYBODY BECAUSE OUR KIDS GO IN SCHOOL AND OUT OF SCHOOL ALL -- ALL TIMES OF THE DAY, IN THE MORNING, IN THE NOON, AND IN THE AFTERNOON. I KNOW RESURRECTION HAS EVENTS GOING ON ALL THE TIME, INCLUDING MASSES AND STUFF. I'VE NEVER HAD ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC JAM GOING IN OR OUT OF RESURRECTION OR KRYCUL AVENUE. AS FAR AS THE BEAUTY OF IT, THE CHURCH IS SO FAR BACK AND THERE'S SUCH BEAUTIFUL WOODS THERE -- AND LIKE TOM SAYS, THE CONCERN AS FAR AS IT BEING UP FRONT, IT'S NOW GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE BACK THERE WHERE IT IS STILL -- ALL THE TREES ARE JUST GOING TO STAY BEAUTIFUL OR EVERYBODY. AND AS FAR AS THE CRIME SITUATION, I THINK IF -- THE PEOPLE WILL SEE THE BLESSINGS OF THE -- AND IF YOU PROBABLY LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND IN CERTAIN TOWNS, YOU'VE PROBABLY LEARNED THAT THE CRIME RATE HAS GONE DOWN AND NOT UP. SO AS A PROPONENT, I -- I HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WILL PASS AND HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL INSTITUTION BE BUILT ON OUR GROUNDS. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, SIR. >> SIGN IN, PLEASE. SIR. >>STEVE LUCE: GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M ASHLEY JOHNSON. I'M 18 YEARS OLD, AND I'M FROM 13003 CREEK MANOR COURT, RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA 33569. I BELONG TO RESURRECTION CATHOLIC CHURCH ALSO. I'M A YOUTH LEADER THERE, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I WISH I HAD THIS HERE WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IN RIVERVIEW. I MOVED AROUND A COUPLE TIMES. MY MOTHER IS IN THE AIR FORCE, AND EVERY SINGLE PLACE THAT WE MOVED I WISHED THAT THERE WAS LIKE A CLUB OR SOMEWHERE I COULD GO TO MEET OTHER KIDS MY AGE. AND I MOVED HERE -- MOVED BACK HERE WHEN I WAS ABOUT TEN, AND WE CAME INTO RESURRECTION, AND THERE WAS A YOUTH GROUP, BUT IT WAS KIND OF SMALL, AND I JUST WISH THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING BIGGER, SOMETHING MORE WHERE I COULD BE WITH OTHER KIDS MY AGE, AND I'M JUST SO EXCITED NOW THAT THIS IS COMING ALONG FOR ALL THE OTHER KIDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP IN MY CHURCH OR EVEN AROUND MY CHURCH, EVEN IN LAKE ST. CHARLES, AND I JUST HOPE THAT THIS PASSES THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WE GET THIS CLUB NEXT TO OUR CHURCH AND THAT ALL THE YOUTH CAN COME TOGETHER. >>STEVE LUCE: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DIANA CAMPO EKONOMOU, 907 OAK HOLLOW PLACE, BRANDON, FLORIDA. THE VISIONARY THAT MADE THE DONATION WAS MY FATHER WHO WAS A PRODUCT OF A BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IN YBOR CITY. NEED I SAY MORE? THROUGH HIS DONATION THIS BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WILL BECOME A REALITY, AND I JUST HOPE THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS OR HAVE OBJECTIONS TO IT OR SEE SOMETHING NOT GOOD ABOUT IT WILL REALLY TAKE A SECOND LOOK. MY DAD DID A LOT OF GOOD FOR THE BRANDON COMMUNITY AND ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO DOWN AND LOOK AT THE -- ON BLOOMINGDALE AND SEE THE CAMPO FAMILY "Y." WE HAVE THE NORTH BRANDON "Y." THE SALESIAN YOUTH CENTER HE WAS A PART OF, WHICH IS A JOINT EFFORT WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS. THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS, I COULD GO ON FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. MOST OF YOU KNEW HIM, AND I -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT HERE TO SHARE IT WITH US. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS EARL LENNARD. I LIVE AT 8903 ALAFIA WAY IN RIVERVIEW, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE TIME. >>STEVE LUCE: THAT'S FINE. [PARTICIPANT SWORN IN] THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU. I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF RIVERVIEW AS WELL AS HAVING WORKED WITH YOUNG PEOPLE FOR 41 YEARS AS A TEACHER, A SCHOOL ADMINISTRATOR, AND AS A SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT. I PERSONALLY KNOW THE IMPACT, THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS HAVE ON YOUNGSTERS, BOTH SOCIALLY AS WELL AS ACADEMICALLY. THEIR LEADERSHIP SKILLS ARE DEVELOPED AND HONED, AND I WOULD LIKE TO -- WITHOUT TAKING ANY FURTHER TIME OF THE HEARING OFFICER AND STAFF -- TO SAY TO YOU THAT I ENCOURAGE YOU, I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THIS -- THIS PROJECT THAT A GREAT FAMILY BENEFACTOR HAS COME FORTH, THE CAMPO FAMILY, AS WELL AS THE KEARNEY FAMILY TO PUT FORTH THE MONEY TO BUILD IN RIVERVIEW. THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD IN RIVERVIEW OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS HAS JUST EXPONENTIALLY -- THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD, WE NEED A PLACE FOR YOUNGSTERS TO BE, TO GO AND GROW, AND WITH THAT I WOULD SAY I URGE YOU TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, SIR. GOOD EVENING. >> HI. MY NAME'S SANDRA AMBROSINO, AND I LIVE AT 10616 EGRET HAVEN LANE IN RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA 33578. I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK QUICK TO SUPPORT -- I'M A SINGLE MOTHER OF FOUR-YEAR-OLD TWIN BOYS, AND WE'RE A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH AS WELL AS THEY GO TO DAY CARE THERE. THEY'RE MOVING ON INTO KINDERGARTEN NEXT YEAR, AND THE CHURCH AND SCHOOL HAVE BEEN GREAT, POSITIVE INFLUENCE IN THEIR LIFE, AND I THINK THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WOULD JUST CONTINUE THAT ON OUT. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW MY SUPPORT THAT IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING. >>STEVE LUCE: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >>STEVE LUCE: DOES ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION? I SEE NO ONE RESPONDING. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION? YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING, SIR. MY NAME IS MAGGIE MOONEY PORTALE. I'M AN ATTORNEY AT LEWIS LONGMAN & WALKER. THE ADDRESS IS 1001 THIRD AVENUE WEST, BRADENTON, FLORIDA. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. BEFORE I GET STARTED IN RELAYING THE DISTRICT'S OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, I FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT THE DISTRICT DOES NOT TAKE ISSUE WITH THE GOOD WORK DONE BY THE RESURRECTION CHURCH OR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. IN FACT, WE'D STIPULATE THAT BOTH ARE INCREDIBLE BENEFITS TO A COMMUNITY AND PROBABLY WILL BE OF BENEFIT TO THE RIVERVIEW COMMUNITY. WHAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROCEDURAL AND SUBSTANTIVE PROBLEMS WITH THE REZONE APPLICATION SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS FORMED BACK IN 1995 BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ORDINANCE 95-30 AND BY FLORIDA STATUTE CHAPTER 190. IT IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT GOVERNED BY AN ELECTED BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT ARE POPULARLY ELECTED BY THE RESIDENTS OF THE LAKE ST. CHARLES DISTRICT. THAT DISTRICT IS COMPOSED OF 786 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, 40 -- AND 40 TOWNHOMES. IT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE CHURCH PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF KRYCUL AVENUE AND LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD. I'M SURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME SUMMARY REPORT, BUT EVERYTHING SOUTH OF LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD IS LAKE ST. CHARLES DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. OF RELEVANT NOTE IS THAT ACCESS TO THE DISTRICT IS SOLELY THROUGH LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD. IT IS THE ONLY WAY OF INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE DISTRICT'S RESIDENCES. FURTHERMORE, KRYCUL AVENUE AND LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD IS OBVIOUSLY A SIGNIFICANT INTERSECTION, AS IT BASICALLY CONTROLS ALL OF THE INGRESS AND EGRESS TO THE COMMUNITY. KRYCUL AVENUE LEADS TO 301 TO THE NORTH, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME FURTHER BEARINGS. NOW, THERE ARE THREE REASONS FOR THE DISTRICT'S OBJECTIONS, AND I HAVE SET THEM FORTH IN A LETTER I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT INTO THE RECORD TO YOU, AND I HAVE A COPY FOR BOTH YOU AND FOR THE CLERK. BUT THE THREE REASONS ARE THIS: NUMBER ONE IS A NOTICE ISSUE. THIS DISTRICT WAS NOT PROVIDED ADEQUATE NOTICE OF THE -- OF THE REZONING APPLICATION. NUMBER TWO, THERE WAS A LACK OF INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION, WHICH IS A COMPONENT OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND THIRD, THERE IS -- THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY WITH THE TRAFFIC ELEMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN. AND I'LL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THESE -- THESE OBJECTIONS, AND I'D LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME FOR SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS, INCLUDING THE CHAIRMAN OF THE DISTRICT'S BOARD OF SUPERVISOR TO COME UP AND RELAY SOME OF HIS PERSONAL CONCERNS. WITH REGARD TO THE ADEQUACY OF THE NOTICE, IT IS SIGNIFICANT, AND I THINK YOU POINTED TO THIS, MR. LUCE, THAT THIS IS NOT A LOT SPLIT SITUATION HERE, WHICH YOU HAD SEVERAL -- SEVERAL ZONING APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY. THE CHURCH INTENDS TO MAINTAIN THIS PROPERTY AND IT INTENDS TO LEASE THE PROPERTY TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THE -- THE COUNTY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS CLEAR THAT -- THAT -- THAT ANY PROPERTIES WITHIN 500 FEET OF A REZONE APPLICATION HAVE TO RECEIVE A THRESHOLD LEVEL OF NOTICE, INCLUDING A WRITTEN MAILED NOTICE. THAT NOTICE WAS NEVER RECEIVED. IN FACT, THE DISTRICT DID NOT RECEIVE CONFIRMATION THAT THIS HEARING WAS GOING TO TAKE PLACE TODAY UNTIL WEDNESDAY, MAY 13th. THAT'S LESS THAN A WEEK. THAT'S THREE BUSINESS DAYS. AND THAT NOTICE WAS RECEIVED VIA E-MAIL FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES. >>STEVE LUCE: LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ASK STAFF THAT QUESTION WHILE WE'RE ON IT. MR. GRADY, REGARDING NOTICE OF ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. >>BRIAN GRADY: THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT IN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA IS 300 FEET, IT'S NOT 500 FEET, AND IT'S AROUND THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES OF THE APPLICATION, AND SO EVEN THOUGH THE CHURCH PARCEL'S LARGER, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF THE AREA THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR THIS ZONING APPLICATION JUST COVERS THE AREA COVERED BY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. THEREFORE, IT IS 300 FEET AROUND THE BOUNDARIES OF THAT PROPERTY. >>STEVE LUCE: IT DID NOT TOUCH THE BOUNDARY OF THE COMMUNITY DISTRICT? >>BRIAN GRADY: I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. I CAN DOUBLE-CHECK THAT WITH STAFF, BUT I -- MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS NO PROBLEMS WITH THE NOTICE THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE APPLICANT REGARDING NOTICE OF THEIR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IF THEY WERE A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION WITH THE OFFICE OF NEIGHBORHOOD RELATIONS TO QUALIFY FOR RECEIVING A NOTICE, THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A NOTICE. WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ON THAT REGISTRY, I DO NOT KNOW, BUT WE COULD -- I CAN'T VERIFY THAT TONIGHT, BUT IF WE WERE TO VERIFY THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO RECEIVE NOTICE AND WERE NOT, THEN THESE PROCEEDINGS WOULD BE OUT OF ORDER AND WE'D HAVE TO REDO THE HEARING. >>STEVE LUCE: WELL, IF YOU COULD, WORK WITH THE ZONING TECHNICIAN, SEE IF YOU'VE GOT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER LIST AND NEIGHBORHOOD LIST IN YOUR FILE. >> IF I MAY, SIR, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED TO REGISTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BILL OF RIGHTS. THAT IS -- AS A COMMUNITY. THAT IS FOR A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. AGAIN, IT'S A DISTINCTION HERE BECAUSE WE ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE DISTRICT. IT IS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT DOESN'T, MY UNDERSTANDING -- >>BRIAN GRADY: I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUE SHE'S ARGUING, SO I CAN'T RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. I DON'T KNOW THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT AND A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATION OR -- I KNOW WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S -- WE HAVE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER -- OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND OUR PERIMETER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHERE IF THEY ENTER INTO THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WE WILL NOTIFY THEM IF THERE'S ANY REZONINGS WITHIN A MILE OF THEIR PROJECT, BUT THAT'S ONLY THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE CREATION OF AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THAT WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES, ONLY THE ONES WE HAVE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH. >>STEVE LUCE: THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY PARTICULAR INTERGOVERNMENTAL NOTICE THAT'S DONE WITH [INDISCERNIBLE CROSS TALK] >>BRIAN GRADY: I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY EITHER. >>STEVE LUCE: DOES COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE STAFF HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ABOUT THE QUESTION OF ADEQUACY OF NOTICE? >>SHERI MURPHY: I WOULD CONCUR WITH MR. GRADY. WE'RE CHECKING TO SEE WHICH GROUPS WERE NOTIFIED AND WILL RESPOND BACK WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION. >> OKAY. AS WAS MENTIONED BY THE PRESENTERS AND THE PROPONENTS, THERE WERE ADDITIONAL MEETINGS BETWEEN THE DISTRICT STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVE AND BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, AND IT HAD TO DO WITH THE INITIAL PLACEMENT OF THIS FACILITY. OF RELEVANT NOTE, THOUGH, IS THAT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN SINCE THEY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION A FORWARDING OF THE ACTUAL PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY DESPITE A REPRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT SUCH A PLAN WOULD BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO OR IMMEDIATELY AFTER SUBMITTING THE SAME TO THE COUNTY. IN FACT, THAT -- THAT WAS -- THAT REQUEST WAS MADE AT A DISTRICT MEETING ON OCTOBER 2008, OF WHICH THERE WERE MINUTES RECORDED WHERE THE DISTRICT REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT NOTIFY THEM OF THE SUBMISSION OF A REZONE APPLICATION AND THAT THE APPLICANTS PARTICIPATE IN THAT TOWN HALL MEETING ONCE THE APPLICATION AND THE LOCATION AND ALL OF THE DETAILS WERE FINALIZED. THE APPLICANT HAS IGNORED THAT REQUEST. MY SECOND POINT HERE TONIGHT IS THAT THERE'S A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN. SPECIFICALLY, THERE -- SPECIFICALLY BY ORDINANCE 08-13, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ADOPTED AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT OF ITS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY. PURSUANT TO THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE COMP PLAN, COUNTY STAFF IS REQUIRED TO COORDINATE WITH ADJACENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO ENSURE BEST PRACTICES, CURRENT TECHNIQUES, AND POLICIES ARE USED WHEN ADDRESSING INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES -- SERVICE ISSUES LIKE TRANSPORTATION. THESE POLICIES, POLICY 1.1, 1.4, 1.5, 5.1, AND 5.3 OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRE SUCH COOPERATION, AND THAT DID NOT OCCUR. IN FACT, THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION FROM THE COUNTY STAFF AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO THE DISTRICT NOTIFYING THEM THAT THIS REZONING APPLICATION SO CLOSE TO THEIR PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WAS -- WAS EVEN IN THE PIPELINE MUCH LESS THAN THERE WAS A HEARING TONIGHT. THE THIRD OBJECTION THAT THE DISTRICT HAS TO THE PROPOSED REZONE IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE REASONABLE ASSURANCES THAT THE PROPOSED REZONE WILL NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ALONG KRYCUL AVENUE AND ALONG LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD, AND THIS IS IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF POLICIES 1.1, 1.11, 2.1, 1.5, 5.1, 5.1.1, 5.2, 5.2.2, 5.3.1, 5.2.3. AND IN THESE PARTICULAR TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS A SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS. AGAIN, THERE WAS NOTHING IN WHAT WE HAVE REVIEWED -- AND IN ALL CANDOR, IT HAS MOSTLY BEEN STAFF REPORTS BECAUSE THE STAFF WAS VERY ACCOMMODATING TO OUR -- OUR REQUESTS WITHIN THE LAST TWO BUSINESS DAYS SINCE WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS HEARING TO PROVIDE US WITH THEIR STAFF REPORTS, BUT THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY WAS EVER CONSIDERED AND THE IMPACT OF THIS TRANSPORTATION -- THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAT MAY OCCUR BECAUSE OF THIS FACILITY. THERE WAS -- THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT LAKE ST. CHARLES WAS EVEN A GLIMMER ON THE MAP HERE. >>STEVE LUCE: LET ME ASK STAFF, WAS THIS APPLICATION TRANSMITTED TO YOUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF FOR REVIEW? >>BRIAN GRADY: YES, IT WAS, AND THEY HE DID PROVIDE COMMENTS, AND MR. SHOPMYER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM. >> MR. LUCE, YOU WILL HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS OVER AT LAKE ST. CHARLES DISTRICT THAT WILL -- THAT WILL STATE THAT THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CONGESTION AT THE INTERSECTION OF KRYCUL -- EXCUSE ME -- AVENUE AND LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PEAK MORNING AND AFTERNOON RUSH HOURS. THE COUNTY STAFF REPORT EVEN CALLS KRYCUL AVENUE SUBSTANDARD. HOWEVER, WHAT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS AND WHAT IT FAILS TO -- TO EVEN SPEAK TO IS LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD AND THE IMPACT THIS MAY HAVE ON IT. NOW, COUNTY STAFF DID MAKE SEVERAL SUGGESTIONS AS PROPOSED CONDITIONS FOR THE REZONE APPLICATION, AND WE ALSO TAKE ISSUE WITH THOSE, PARTICULARLY CONDITIONS 9, 10, AND 11. CONDITION 9 INDICATES THAT ONE ACCESS POINT ON KRYCUL AVENUE WILL BE RECOMMENDED, AND ANY ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE PARCEL SHALL BE PROVIDED THROUGH A CROSS-ACCESS VIA ADJACENT PARCELS. NOW, IN A STAFF COMMENT SHEET COUNTY STAFF INDICATES THAT THEY MAY WANT THAT SHARED ACCESS TO BE ON JOHANNA AVENUE, WHICH IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE SITE -- AT THE MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE SUMMARY REPORT, YOU'LL SEE THAT JOHANNA AVENUE IS JUST SLIGHTLY NORTH OF LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD. FURTHER, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN IDENTIFIED YET WHERE THIS SECONDARY ACCESS POINT IS GOING TO OCCUR, THERE IS SOME CONCERN BY THE DISTRICT, AND RIGHTFULLY SO, THAT THAT SECONDARY ACCESS MAY BE THROUGH -- MAY BE ON TO ST. LAKE CHARLES BOULEVARD. AGAIN, THE CONCERN HERE IS THAT THERE'S NOTHING PROTECTING THIS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FROM TRAFFIC IMPACTS, AND THAT IS VERY OBJECTIONABLE TO THIS DISTRICT. PROPOSED CONDITION 10 SUGGESTS THAT THE -- THAT -- EXCUSE ME. PROPOSED CONDITION 10 SUGGESTS THAT THE DEVELOPER MAY BE REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE FACILITY'S DRIVEWAY, AND IF THERE IS A SUBSEQUENT ANALYSIS BY THE DEVELOPER THAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS INADEQUATE, THEN THE DEVELOPER MAY BE REQUIRED TO SHOW ALTERNATIVE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ADJACENT STREET TRAFFIC. OKAY. THE DISTRICT OBJECTS TO THIS SPECULATIVE, POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, STUDY BY THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK IN TO DETERMINE WHETHER A LEVEL OF SERVICE IS ADEQUATE AT A FUTURE TIME. THE DISTRICT'S RESIDENTS WILL BE IMMEDIATELY ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY INCREASED TRAFFIC AS SOON AS THIS BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OPENS. WHEN PARENTS ARE PICKING UP THEIR CHILDREN, WHEN BUSES ARE DROPPING OFF KIDS AT THE FACILITY, IT -- THIS IS A TWO-LANE ROAD. KRYCUL AVENUE IS A TWO-LANE ROAD, AND THE DISTRICT WILL BE IMPACTED IMMEDIATELY. PROPOSED CONDITION 11 SUGGESTS THAT THE DEVELOPER MAY BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE ONE-HALF OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE COUNTY -- TO THE COUNTY TO CORRECT THE SUBSTANDARD RIGHT- OF-WAY FOR THE TWO-LANE COLLECTOR ROAD. AGAIN, BY THE STAFF'S OWN LANGUAGE IN THEIR CONDITION -- IN THEIR REPORT, KRYCUL AVENUE IS SUBSTANDARD AND OVERBURDENED, AND WITH THAT, SIR, IF I COULD RESERVE SOME TIME FOR DAVE NELSON, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SUPERVISOR. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M DAVE NELSON, LAKE ST. CHARLES, 7215 BUCKS FORD DRIVE. I'M CHAIRMAN OF LAKE ST. CHARLES CDD BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND -- >>STEVE LUCE: JUST LET ME -- >> AND WE'RE THE RESIDENTS HERE -- >>STEVE LUCE: SIR, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. JUST FOR THE RECORD, GIVEN THE BREADTH OF THE CONCERNS OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY DISTRICT, I'LL GRANT ADDITIONAL TIME, BUT PLEASE, YOU KNOW, BE AWARE OF THE COMMENTS ALREADY PROVIDED BY YOUR REPRESENTATIVE. >> YES, SIR. >>STEVE LUCE: IF I COULD, HOW MUCH MORE TIME DO YOU THINK YOU'LL NEED AND ANY OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK? ABOUT ONE MORE? >> COULD WE HAVE EVERYONE STAND UP THAT'S HERE THAT'S A RESIDENT OF LAKE ST. CHARLES THAT HAS AN OBJECTION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND HOW MANY OF THE RESIDENTS INTEND TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY? I HAD ONE PERSON IN THE BACK. ABOUT TWO OR THREE MORE? SO GIVEN THAT, SIR, WITH TWO OR THREE MORE TO SPEAK AND YOURSELF -- >> YES, SIR. >>STEVE LUCE: TEN MINUTES. >> OKAY. I'LL BE FAST. >>STEVE LUCE: TRY THAT. >> YES. AS YOU SEE, THERE'S MANY RESIDENTS HERE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT THAT HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THE -- TO THE REZONING. I'D LIKE TO JUST READ INTO THE RECORD SOME NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS, AND MOST OF THESE, I MUST SAY, ARE BASED ON TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUES THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED AND ARE GOING TO -- THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. LORRAINE KELLY FROM 10029 REMINGTON DRIVE, RIVERVIEW. SHE WAS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT THERE. I'D LIKE TO GIVE THAT -- PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD. ALSO CYNTHIA SHAO FROM 6725 THACKSTON DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA. SHE TALKS ABOUT THERE'S A SMALL TWO-LANE STREET AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. ALSO WILLIAM AND MARILU NOAKES OF 7216 BUCKS FORD DRIVE ALSO HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. MR. SCOTT HOROWITZ OF 9601 BAY COLONY HAS AN ISSUE WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW. ALSO MR. ANDREW FULLERTON OF 6822 WATERTON DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, FLORIDA, HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE TRAFFIC. MR. JIM WHITFORD, 7270 BUCKS FORD DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, HAS AN ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC. I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE RECORD. ALSO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A LETTER HERE THAT WAS SUBMITTED MAY 14th, 2007, AND IT SPECIFICALLY -- IT WAS TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, MR. ROY OPFER, AND IT SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETING TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE. I HAVE A COUPLE PICTURES HERE. OKAY. THERE WE GO. AS CAN YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS -- RESURRECTION CHURCH IS ON THE RIGHT AND THIS IS FOUR OR FIVE CARS. THIS WAS TAKEN ON A SUNDAY AT 6:30, AND I MEAN, ALL OF THESE CARS TURNED TO LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE CARS THERE ALREADY, AND THAT'S ON A SUNDAY. I COULD JUST IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE ON A WEEKDAY. THIS HERE IS JUST A PICTURE OF SOME OF THE TREES IN THE AREA THAT'S PLANNED FOR REZONING FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO CUT DOWN SOME OF THOSE TREES. ANOTHER ISSUE WE HAVE, IF THIS COMES UP, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT HERE AT 301 AND KRYCUL. WE ARE -- WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THERE -- WITH -- IF THIS HAS AN INGRESS AND EGRESS ONTO KRYCUL, THAT WILL ALSO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT WITH THE TRAFFIC. IF I COULD PUT THOSE INTO THE RECORD. LIKE I SAID, WE HAD ALREADY REQUESTED A TOWN HALL MEETING, AND WE DIDN'T GET ONE. WE SAW PRELIMINARY PLANS, AND THAT'S WHY WE INITIALLY REQUESTED TO HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING, TO ALLOW ALL THE RESIDENTS TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINALIZED PLANS. THE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS THAT I READ, I GOT A COUPLE -- TWO DAYS AGO, IT STATES THAT THERE WILL BE 388 VEHICLES PER WORKDAY -- WEEKDAY, 195 IN AND 195 OUT. THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE DOUBLE BECAUSE WHEN THE CARS GO IN IN THE MORNING, THEY HAVE TO COME OUT IN THE MORNING, AND ALL THOSE CARS ARE COMING IN AND OUT ON KRYCUL. AND THE SAME'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE EVENING, SO REALLY, YOU'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW, 800 CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT ROAD, A TWO-LANE ROAD. ON BEHALF OF LAKE ST. CHARLES RESIDENTS, WE WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME OF THE OTHER RESIDENTS COME UP JUST TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: SURE. THANK YOU, SIR. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M VIRGINIA GIANAKOS. I LIVE AT 6904 WATERTON DRIVE. ADDITIONALLY I'M THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY COMMUNITY, AS YOU ALL ARE REPRESENTING HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT OUR RESIDENTS, AND AS CHAIRMAN NELSON MENTIONED, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT HAS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT. I MYSELF HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD. I JOG HER TO DAY CARE AND I JOG HOME. ALREADY IT'S CONGESTED. I HAVE TO WAIT SOMETIMES FIVE OR TEN MINUTES. KIDS COMMUNITY COLLEGE RELEASES THE SAME TIME THE SCHOOLS RELEASE. THEY'RE A CHARTER SCHOOL. AT THAT TIME THOSE ROADS ARE ALREADY CONGESTED. PARENTS HAVE ALREADY -- AND RESIDENTS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED TO ME THAT THE POTHOLES ON KRYCUL, THE STATE OF THE CURRENT ROAD IS CREATING TIRE DAMAGE AND CAR DAMAGE TO THEIR VEHICLES. SO I CERTAINLY VALUE THE BENEFITS OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT I SINCERELY REQUEST THAT WE LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION MORE SERIOUSLY AND ABSOLUTELY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE OR FIND A BETTER FACILITY WITH BETTER ENTRANCE AND EXITS. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> SIGN IN, PLEASE. >> HI. I'M SUSAN PINI, 6709 WATERTON DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, IN LAKE ST. CHARLES. A COUPLE CONCERNS I HAVE. OF COURSE, THE TRAFFIC, WE ALL HAVE THAT. IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES TO GET OUT OF THERE NOW. THE 13-YEAR-OLD SIGN-OUT PROGRAM THAT THEY ALLOW, ANYONE THAT IS OF 13 YEARS OR OLDER CAN SIGN OUT, SO THESE ARE TROUBLED CHILDREN, A LOT OF THEM THAT ARE GOING THERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO JUST SIGN OUT AFTER THEIR PARENTS DROP THEM OFF AND ROAM AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S NOT APPRECIATED. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUTDOOR NOISE. THEY SAY THERE WON'T BE TOO MUCH. WELL, IF MOST OF THE PROGRAMS ARE INSIDE, THEN WHY CAN'T THIS BE BUILT ON A MAIN ROAD RATHER THAN BUTTED UP AGAINST A DEVELOPMENT? A COUPLE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THIS WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY. WELL, IF YOU NOTICE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKE ABOUT THIS BENEFITING OUR COMMUNITY WAS ONE PERSON WHO BELONGS TO THE CHURCH. EVERYONE ELSE DOESN'T LIVE IN ANY OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND IT. OUR COMMUNITIES TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. WE HAVE THE KIDS COMMUNITY COLLEGE THAT HAS AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS, THERE'S OTHER SCHOOLS AND DAY CARE CENTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. WE DON'T NEED IT. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN. SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL TO US. THE ONLY THING IT'S GOING TO BE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM TO US. WE DON'T NEED MORE PROBLEMS. WE'VE ALREADY HAD A LITTLE BIT WITH KIDS COMING FROM OTHER AREAS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND CAUSING DAMAGE AND DESTROYING THINGS IN OUR POOL, AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT AND HOPE WE HAVE THAT UNDER CONTROL. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER 200 KIDS THAT WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR. THEY TALK ABOUT PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK. THAT ROAD IS EXTREMELY NARROW. I CAN'T SEE WHERE THERE WOULD BE ROOM FOR A SIDEWALK. LET'S SEE. I THINK I'VE JUST ABOUT COVERED MOST OF THE ITEMS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, MA'AM. DOES ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION? I SEE NO ONE -- YES, SIR. >> I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. MY NAME IS MIKE BURNS. I LIVE AT 7012 JAMESTOWN MANOR DRIVE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF LAKE ST. CHARLES FOR TEN YEARS, AND WE COME FROM A LARGE COMMUNITY, AND I -- I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT HAD WE BEEN INFORMED AND BEEN INVOLVED, YOU WOULD HAVE GOT 100% SUPPORT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB. AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT HAS TO BE STUCK ON THAT LITTLE TINY KRYCUL ROAD BETWEEN 301 HIGHWAY AND LAKE ST. CHARLES. ANYWHERE ALONG 301 FROM BLOOMINGDALE TO RIVERVIEW DRIVE THERE'S SITES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR SUCH A CLUB. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. >> MARK COOPER, 7219 COLONIAL LAKE DRIVE, RIVERVIEW, RESIDENTS OF LAKE ST. CHARLES. IN THE STAFF REPORT IT SAYS THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS SHALL BE NEEDED TO SERVE THE FUTURE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC PLUS THE DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC, AND IF THIS IS MIXED-USE, THERE ARE MANY COMMERCIAL PARCELS STARTING TO BE REZONED ALONG KRYCUL AVENUE, AND I -- THE TRAFFIC IS VERY, VERY BAD. I JUST DO NOT SEE HOW THAT THOSE COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, FUTURE NEEDS WITH THIS MIXED-USE ZONING AND THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD. THE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT KRYCUL AVENUE IS RATED AS A "T," WHICH IS LIGHT GRAY AND SLIGHTLY WORN. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE A "U," UNDESIRABLE, WHICH IS CRACKS, RUTS, AND FILLED POTHOLES, THE SAME RATING AS 301 THAT JUST GOT REPAVED. SO TRAFFIC IS A HUGE ISSUE. AND THEN THE RELEASE OF THE KIDS, WE ARE ADJACENT TO AND WE HAVE NO FENCING -- NO PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAT WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM TRAVERSING RIGHT INTO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. WITH THAT, AT THIS POINT IF I COULD GET MR. SHOPMYER TO COME FORWARD, TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC FOR A MOMENT. GOOD EVENING, MR. SHOPMYER. >>GLEN SHOPMYER: GOOD EVENING, MR. LUCE. THIS IS GLEN SHOPMYER FROM PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT. >>STEVE LUCE: REGARDING YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE SUBJECT APPLICATION. >>GLEN SHOPMYER: THIS APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE WARRANT FOR A FULL DETAILED TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS AT THIS TIME FOR THE REZONING PHASE OF IT. PRIOR TO ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION STARTING, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONCURRENCY PHASE. WHAT THAT WILL DO IS WILL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TRAFFIC FROM THIS SPOT, THE EXISTING TRAFFIC OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, OTHER TRAFFIC FROM OTHER NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN VESTED; THAT IS, THEY'VE ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR BUILDING PERMITS OR APPROVED FOR THEIR PARTICULAR ZONING, ADD ALL OF THAT TOGETHER, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO BE MADE AT THEIR PARTICULAR SITE MAY NOT JUST BE AT THEIR SITE, IT MAY BE A TURN LANE DOWN THE STREET OR UP AT 301 OR OVER AT LAKE ST. CHARLES AT 301. THE -- THE AREA IN WHICH IT'S -- THERE WOULD BE STUDYING IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON THEIR TRIP GENERATION, AND HENCE THE -- THE VERBIAGE IN MY CONDITIONS OR -- THEY SAY "MAY." MY REPORT IS BASED ON A 17,000-SQUARE-FOOT RECREATIONAL FACILITY. IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO CONSTRUCT THAT SIZE FACILITY AND THEY ONLY END UP CONSTRUCTING A 13,000- SQUARE-FOOT FACILITY OR SO, WHICH GENERATES LESS TRIPS DURING THE PEAK HOUR, THEY MAY NOT WARRANT A LEFT TURN LANE AT ALL, AT LEAST FROM THIS STANDARD. LIKE I SAID, THOUGH, ADDITIONAL STANDARDS WILL BE APPLIED THROUGH CONCURRENCY REVIEW. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. CURRENTLY DO YOU RECALL IN YOUR ANALYSIS WHAT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS ON KRYCUL? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: KRYCUL IS CURRENTLY OPERATING AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE "C." NOW, THAT'S BASED ON THE PEAK DIRECTION OF THE VOLUME ITSELF, AND WHAT WE HAVE BASED ON A SEPTEMBER '08 DOCUMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY, WE'VE GOT 515 VEHICLES GOING IN THE PEAK DIRECTION, AND THAT PEAK DIRECTION OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE 817 VEHICLES. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. AND DO YOU -- DID YOU ANALYZE OR TAKE A LOOK AT LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: WE DID NOT. THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED A REGULATED ROAD, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR IT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT THAT WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION DURING CONCURRENCY AS WILL PROBABLY RIVERVIEW DRIVE. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. DID YOU GO TO 301 WITH YOUR ANALYSIS? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: I HAVE LEVEL -- FOR 301 WE ANALYZED BLOOMINGDALE TO GIBSONTON, AND THAT'S CURRENTLY A LEVEL OF SERVICE "F." >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. IS -- LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD AND KRYCUL AVENUE, IS THAT A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: I BELIEVE IT'S A FOUR-WAY STOP. >>STEVE LUCE: I THINK I SAW PHOTOGRAPHS. IT'S STOP SIGNS; RIGHT? OKAY. IS LAKE ST. CHARLES BOULEVARD AT 301 SIGNALIZED? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: I THINK IT IS, YES. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. AT THE -- GOING NORTH ON KRYCUL WHERE IT INTERSECTION WITH 301, IS THAT INTERSECTION SIGNALIZED? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: THAT IS SIGNALIZED, AND I BELIEVE D.O.T. HAS GOT SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS MADE FOR THAT. THEY HAD -- FOR THE LONGEST TIME WERE GOING TO RESTRICT SOME OF THE MOVEMENT AT THAT INTERSECTION. >>STEVE LUCE: BUT IT'S SIGNALIZED TODAY, BUT THERE MAY BE -- D.O.T. -- >>GLEN SHOPMYER: YEAH, I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE WHEN THE HOME DEPOT WENT IN, AND THEY IMPROVED KRYCUL NORTH. >>BRIAN GRADY: MR. LUCE, SINCE WE'RE AT THAT INTERSECTION, THERE WAS A QUESTION BY ONE OF THE PRESENTERS IN OPPOSITION ABOUT THAT COMMERCIAL PROJECT AT KRYCUL AND 301, WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS ONTO KRYCUL. I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLANS FOR THAT PROJECT, AND IT DID -- THAT -- THOSE PLANS DID SHOW ACCESS ONTO KRYCUL FOR THAT COMMERCIAL AT 301 AND KRYCUL. >>STEVE LUCE: IT HAS A DRIVEWAY TO KRYCUL? >>BRIAN GRADY: THE PRELIMINARY PLANS. THEY'RE NOT -- FINAL CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED ON THAT, BUT THE PLANS THAT I REVIEWED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DID SHOW AN ACCESS PROPOSED ONTO KRYCUL. >>STEVE LUCE: MR. SHOPMYER, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE ANALYSIS THAT YOU DID SO FAR, THAT IT DIDN'T RISE TO A LEVEL TO -- I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. >>GLEN SHOPMYER: CORRECT. THE THRESHOLDS BEFORE A PD IS REQUIRED TO DO A COMPLETE DETAILED INTERSECTION ANALYSIS TYPE OF STUDY IS 1% OF THE DAILY LEVEL OF SERVICE "C" OF THE DAILY CAPACITY OF THE ADJACENT ROADWAY OR IF IT EXCEEDS 50 PEAK-HOUR TRIPS, AND BASED ON THIS, WE WERE SHOWING IT AS 25 P.M. PEAK-HOUR TRIPS. THAT'S -- AGAIN, THAT'S BASED ON THE I.T.E. TRIP GENERATION RATES FOR THE RECREATIONAL USES. >>STEVE LUCE: AND P.M. PEAK-HOUR IS BETWEEN WHAT HOURS? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: IT'S DESCRIBED AS THE ADJACENT ROAD, SO THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 4:00 P.M. AND 6:00 P.M. IT DEPENDS HOW FAR OUT YOU ARE FROM THE URBANIZED AREA. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY YOU'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE CONDITION OF KRYCUL ROAD, THE SURFACE, OR THE PAVEMENT WIDTH, ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THOSE COMMENTS? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: PAVEMENT WIDTHS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY ARE BOTH CONSIDERED SUBSTANDARD BASED ON CURRENT COUNTY STANDARDS. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN STANDARD WAY BACK WHEN WHEN THE ROAD WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT. THE ROAD HAS BEGUN TO BECOME WORN. THERE'S NO -- GIVEN THE FINANCIAL SITUATION HERE IN THE COUNTY, WE CAN'T GO AROUND AND PAVE ALL THE ROADS EVERY TIME WE GET A POTHOLE OR A CRACK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME THROUGH TO IMPROVE THE ROADWAY, AT LEAST ADJACENT TO THEIR SITE. THERE'S NO DENYING THAT THE INTERSECTION OF LAKE ST. CHARLES AND KRYCUL IS PROBABLY AT A FAILING LEVEL OF SERVICE. THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THROW 700 HOUSES AND THEY ONLY HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT ONTO A -- INTERSECTING A COLLECTOR ROAD, IT'S -- YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DELAY THERE. >>STEVE LUCE: ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: AGAIN, IT'LL BE LOOKED AT IN MORE DETAIL. THEY'LL END UP HAVING TO DO A VERY DETAILED REPORT FOR CONCURRENCY. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. WHICH HAPPENS AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION PLAN SUBMITTAL? >>GLEN SHOPMYER: PRIOR TO THEM BUILDING, BEFORE THEY GET THEIR BUILDING PERMITS. >>STEVE LUCE: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. >>GLEN SHOPMYER: THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: MR. GRADY, ANYTHING FURTHER? >>BRIAN GRADY: JUST WANT TO STATE THAT I REVIEWED THE NOTICE LIST, AND THE NOTICE LIST DOES APPEAR TO BE IN ORDER. AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IF ANY INFORMATION IS BROUGHT THAT WE FIND THAT WOULD CAUSE TO SAY THAT NOTICE WAS OUT OF ORDER, THEN WE WOULD, LIKE I SAID, CALL THESE PROCEEDINGS OUT OF ORDER AND WE'D HAVE TO REDO THIS HEARING. ANY INFORMATION THAT I HAVE IN THE FILE WOULD NOT CAUSE ME TO SAY THAT AT THIS POINT, BUT, AGAIN, CERTAINLY IF -- BEYOND AFTER THIS HEARING WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER TO MAKE SURE THERE ISN'T ANY NOTICE ISSUES, BUT FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FILE, I DON'T SEE ANY NOTICE ISSUES AT THIS POINT WITH -- WITH THE APPLICATION. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. AND THE SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION AND NOTIFYING THE CDD -- >>BRIAN GRADY: AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AFTER THE HEARING BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HAD THAT ISSUE RAISED, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT, AND AGAIN, IF WE MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF NOTICE ISSUE, WE'LL INFORM THE APPLICANT THAT THE PROCEEDINGS ARE OUT OF ORDER AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO -- THEY'LL HAVE TO DO PROPER NOTICE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO REHEAR THE CASE. AGAIN, IN THE SAYING THAT'S THE CASE, BUT WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE REGARDING THEIR CLAIMS ABOUT THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION. >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. VERY GOOD. PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, ANYTHING FURTHER? >> [INAUDIBLE] >>STEVE LUCE: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS TIME, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. >> REFRESH MY MEMORY. HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TO REBUT? IS IT FIVE MINUTES? >>STEVE LUCE: FIVE MINUTES. >> OKAY. I'M BE BRIEF. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF ISSUES. THE FIRST THREE -- OR THE THREE KEY ISSUES THAT WERE ADDRESSED BY THE FIRST OPPONENT COMMENTING ON THE PETITION WERE LEGAL RELATED. FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY. I'M A LAND USE PLANNER SPECIALIZING IN ENTITLEMENT ISSUES OF THIS TYPE, AND I'M NOT GOING TO DEBATE THE LAW, BUT I WILL TELL YOU TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, AS THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, WE PROPERLY NOTICED THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED BASED ON THE COUNTY'S LIST OF REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. WE DID THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROCEDURE. IN MY 25 YEARS OF DOING THIS KIND OF WORK IN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER BEEN REQUIRED TO -- SEPARATE FROM THE LOCAL PROCEDURE REQUIREMENTS -- NOTIFY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS AS A SEPARATE GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. THERE MAY BE COMMUNITIES IN THIS STATE THAT HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS BUILT INTO THEIR CODE. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, BEING A NONATTORNEY -- AND I, AGAIN, DEFER TO YOUR STAFF, AND AS MR. GRADY COMMENTED, CERTAINLY IF THERE ARE RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT WERE NOT FOLLOWED, WE, AS APPLICANTS, WILL DO WHAT WE CAN TO FOLLOW THEM, BUT WE BELIEVE WE'VE ADEQUATELY NOTIFIED THOSE THAT WERE REQUIRED TO BE NOTIFIED. IN FACT, I RECEIVED ONE LETTER OF NOTIFICATION, AS DID THE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT. THERE'S BEEN A LARGE SIGN POSTED ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS STILL STANDING AS OF FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHEN I KIND OF CHECKED ON THINGS TO MAKE SURE THINGS WERE IN ORDER. AND SO I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST FOR THE RECORD THAT THE NOTICE PROCESS OCCURRED ADEQUATELY, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES BEYOND THAT, I DEFER TO YOUR LEGAL STAFF. OUTSIDE OF THAT, THE ISSUES THAT I HEARD THIS EVENING BY THE OPPOSITION WERE TRANSPORTATION RELATED. I, NOT BEING A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER HERE -- WE CONDUCTED THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT WAS REQUIRED THROUGH OUR PREAPPLICATION PROCESS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF THAT REVIEWS THESE MATTERS. I BELIEVE YOU ASKED APPROPRIATE QUESTIONS OF MR. SHOPMYER. I THINK MR. SHOPMYER ADEQUATELY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL STUDY WORK THAT'S NEEDED WITH THIS REQUEST. AT THE TIME OF CONCURRENCY, THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH CONCURRENCY KNOW THAT IT'S NOT AN EASY PROCESS, AND IF THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE ROADWAY NETWORK IN THAT AREA TO SERVE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED AT THE TIME OF PERMITTING, WE INTEND TO DO THAT. THAT'S NO SURPRISE TO THE APPLICANT. I DO WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, AND IT, FOR THE RECORD, REQUIRES CLARIFICATION ON YOUR PART. THE THREE ITEMS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED AS CONDITIONED BY THE PERSON MAKING THE FIRST COMMENTS ON CONDITIONS 9, 10, AND 11, I'LL GO BACK TO 10 AND 11. 10 AND 11 I THINK ARE PRETTY STANDARD. THAT IS WHERE THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE ANALYSIS PROCESS WHEN THE PLANS COME IN FOR PERMIT ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NETWORK OR THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NO DISAGREEMENT ON THE APPLICANT'S PART. IT'S STANDARD LANGUAGE THAT I THINK IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF REQUEST. ITEM NUMBER 9 THERE WERE SOME ASSUMPTIONS MADE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS THROUGH ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCESSING JOHANNA. JOHANNA'S NOT MENTIONED IN ITEM 9. WHAT THE CONDITION SAYS, THE GENERAL DESIGN AND LOCATION OF ACCESS POINTS SHALL BE REGULATED BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ACCESS MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS, AND IT SAYS IN THAT SAME CONDITION, ANY ADDITIONAL ACCESS SHALL BE PROVIDED THROUGH CROSS-ACCESS VIA ADJACENT PARCELS. THE INTENT ALL ALONG WOULD BE THROUGH THE CHURCH PROPERTY. THAT IS OUR INTENT. IT'S NOT THE INTENT TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO LAKE ST. CHARLES AND OTHER ROADS IN THAT COMMUNITY, SO WITH REGARD TO THAT, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE CLARIFICATION, THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE ONE ACCESS FOR THIS PROJECT ONTO KRYCUL AND ANY OTHER ACCESS WOULD BE THROUGH THE CHURCH PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THIS. WITH THAT SAID, ALL OF THE TESTIMONY PRESENTED THIS EVENING, YOU HEARD THIS EVENING NOT ONLY FROM STAFF BUT THE APPLICANT, IS THAT THIS USE IS AN APPROPRIATE USE CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA AND THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE RECORD AND WHAT HAS BEEN STATED AND SUGGEST THAT YOU SUPPORT THIS PROPOSAL IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I MUST SAY BEFORE WE CONCLUDE HERE, MR. BAUMGARDNER HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING SINCE HE'S TAKEN OVER AS PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB -- IF I MAY HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE -- UPON THE RETIREMENT OF ROY OPFER FROM THAT POSITION, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS OVER TIME. I HAVE NOT PARTICIPATED IN THOSE MEETINGS. IF YOU'D LIKE, HE CAN SUBMIT THAT INTO THE RECORD. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF INTERNAL DISCUSSION WITHIN THE LAKE ST. CHARLES COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF HOW AND WHEN CERTAIN INFORMATION SHOULD BE SHARED OR COMMENT OR HOW IT'S PRESENTED, BUT IF MR. BAUMGARDNER CAN SIMPLY ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD, I'D APPRECIATE THAT SO THAT YOUR RECORD IS COMPLETE. THANK YOU. >>STEVE LUCE: JUST -- MR. LaROCCA, JUST BRIEFLY, IF HE HAS ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR DOCUMENTATION, IT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED -- >> NO, BUT THIS WOULD BE IN REBUTTAL TO THE QUESTION HE THAT WAS RAISED ABOUT IF IT'S NECESSARY. IF IT'S NOT, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS INCLUDED IN ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, SO IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT, YOU'RE WELCOME TO USE THAT -- THAT INFORMATION. >>STEVE LUCE: ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY? >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. >>STEVE LUCE: VERY GOOD, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, AND IT CONCLUDES THIS EVENING'S ZONING HEARING MASTER HEARING. THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. |